So funny wrote on Sep 18, 2008 7:38 PM:
" I bet half of these who make excuses for their hometown heros have never lived anywhere but here. Blame the kids (the easy way out for a faulty system), blame the parents (only those that lobby for their kids to get that extra special treatment), blame the coaches (only when it is justified by lets say...an impartial video camera)...where is leadership and someone who will call a spade a spade to actually bring change to this town/district that has so much potential? The good ole boy system is the kiss of death! "
re hold on wrote on Sep 18, 2008 7:30 PM:
" OK take your blinders off. He didn't have a lot to work with??? What kind of man or woman on this blog feels they are justified to slam kids that are on the fields instead of the street? Players will develop attitudes when a coach acts like a cheerleader, is hyper to the point of confusion, prejudges or determines positions, talks out both sides of their mouth, gives the breaks to those that play by their own rules, talks about players in front of other players. Geez this sounds just like why the varsity basketball program folded, oh but wait, hours were put in as well to the youth while this was going on!!! I am from here but please wake up Tomah! A nice man does not always make a good coach! "
hold on... wrote on Sep 17, 2008 9:50 PM:
" Let's leave baseball out of this. Dutton is doing a good job so far. He is running a youth camp this fall on Sundays and putting in a lot of effort for this program. Ya, last year wasnt the best but he didnt have much to work with besides attitudes. Leave you usual negative comments about baseball for the spring. We know you will be back then. "
re new coach wrote on Sep 17, 2008 7:15 PM:
" Know that you will be loved by a few and criticized by many until you turn the program around. You will make mistakes acknowledge them and move forward. Do not play favorites with the kids or reward a few with a position or playing time because their families are local favorites. Do not lilsten to only of those that pat your back or stroke your ego. You are to learn and grow each year just like the kids are expected to do. Character and skill are to be strengthened. Do not carry on in the field or court in a way that the parents or kids can't because it violates the code. This is pretty basic stuff that anyone can honor. "
re re advice wrote on Sep 17, 2008 7:04 PM:
" Ask the kids what they are tired of and their answers may surprise you if they will be honest esp the ones that play baseball "
re hiring a coach wrote on Sep 17, 2008 6:59 PM:
" You can not have it both ways. The girls varsity basketball coach was hired because of a petition started by a group of parents. The district can not have it both ways. Certain parents do get sway the jury...the select few, the average Joe does not they are the bleacher creachers "
re 25 year coach wrote on Sep 17, 2008 6:53 PM:
" It might not always be the parents...what about fb fans and relatives that live where the opposing team is from? Presumptuous aren't we? "
re re re get what deserve 25 year coach wrote on Sep 17, 2008 6:48 PM:
" No one said they think they can coach or even wants to coach but that they have played the sport, know the game and plays and know that just because a team is down does not mean it is ALWAYS the kids fault or a lack of talent. Most coaches that have that many years are usually not so defensive and can admit that sometimes criticism is warranted and good can come from it "
re re bashing wrote on Sep 17, 2008 6:39 PM:
" They need to be developing leadership at all grades not just seniors, hopefully by the time they are seniors they are THE EXAMPLE if it started early on "
25 year coach wrote on Sep 17, 2008 12:13 PM:
" If you have coached that many years, especially if any of it was in Tomah you deserve more that a pat on the back and a handshake. As a fan, with no kids involved, I have always been amazed at how much abuse coaches take from the parents. "
ReAdvice wrote on Sep 17, 2008 11:16 AM:
" I would advise you to do what you do and not worry about the bleacher creatures.kids have to be tired of all this crap too. "
New Coach wrote on Sep 17, 2008 9:21 AM:
" three suggestions for any new coach in tomah.
1. don't let out your e-mail address
2. have an unlisted phone number
3. don't let any of the tomah parents know where you live. "
Rebashing wrote on Sep 17, 2008 8:41 AM:
" Challenging seniors to lead is exactly what good coaches will do. "
rere you get what you deserve wrote on Sep 17, 2008 8:38 AM:
" "can take constructive criticism from those that truly know the game but perhaps do not like coaching themselves" What a veiled can of nonsense.I coach and have for 25 years and do not need folks who think they can coach but cdo not to advise me AT ALL. "
Hiring a coach wrote on Sep 17, 2008 8:02 AM:
" People remember the coach is the coach, not the parents keep your noses out of the coaching and go to the games and cheer for your kid and his teammates. You show more support for athletics that way then trying to coach. "
re player wrote on Sep 16, 2008 11:27 PM:
" It took a lot of guts to write what you did. Keep working hard and playing your heart out and enjoy your senior year. I have seen you play throughout the years to include last year and you are doing a good job without all of that varsity playing time. There are players out there that are excellent athletes who have not been given the playing time or have been put in the right position for whatever reason. We know that when you guys do not win it could be because of the play, players, offense, defense or even the coaches fault so hang in there. Not all of the bloggers are jerks. "
re re football parent wrote on Sep 16, 2008 11:10 PM:
" Defensive tendancies?? You must be a Mr. or Ms. Joe Paterno yourself. Perhaps you would enjoy sitting in the box with the coaching staff serving refreshments or working as a broadcaster for Hagen...YOU have impressed many with your insight of football. However, the point that was trying to be made is the community needs to quit talking about the seniors as a group negatively. Some of the older players that have been singled out in the media or who has a lot of varsity experience or those that have been designated as leaders need to "step up to the plate" as was said by one of their own players on a LaCrosse news channel about the seniors who do not have a lot of varsity experience. Experience does not necessarily mean that you are a leader or a team player. Lets let the inexperienced seniors enjoy their year shall we?????? "
RE you get what you deserve wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:26 PM:
" The parents of the players are not the blame for this one. Many of the parents from last years varsity were friends with the coach. He resigned because of the answer he received when asking the players a direct question. The program may now have a fresh start. Lets hope the new staff will not do business as usual. They will only turn it around if they are objective, fair and can take constructive criticism from those that truly know the game but perhaps do not like coaching themselves. If they only listen to those that agree with them or make excuses for them, it is the kids that pay the price. "
Been there wrote on Sep 16, 2008 8:19 PM:
" Some of us that go to the games have played football so we know the sport we just do not want to coach. We know good plays and bad calls. The teenagers that go out for sports should never be treated like this. Talent is cultivated and some of these players that are not making the headlines this year may go on to play college ball. Coaches and the players will make bad plays. If a game is lost to leadership then the coaches and captains should take the blame. "
Bashing wrote on Sep 16, 2008 8:10 PM:
" I do believe it was the Coach that started the negative press about the boys and leadership. I do not believe it was all of the senior players he was talking about but perhaps some of the seniors and playmakers that have played Varsity for a few years that are in "leadership positions" this year. Referencing the Holmen game that was won...they almost being lost the last game due to either an unlucky kick or the wrong play "kick" being called during the final minutes of the game. Do not bash the kids. Coaches will make bad calls. That is the reality of the game. Coaches should also own up when they get it wrong, that would demonstrate LEADERSHIP!!! Back off of the KIDS!! "
re re football wrote on Sep 16, 2008 2:14 PM:
" You are right-the players did it.
I was wrong you did manage to try to make a negative out of a positive.
I'm beginning to believe what I heard about Tomah fans when I moved here. The fans are known for their poor sportsmanship. "
re football wrote on Sep 16, 2008 12:18 PM:
" They were LUCKY they won. Not because of anything the coaches did. "
Football wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:23 AM:
" How come there aren't any blogs on the Tomah Holmen football game?
Silly me!!
Tomah WON that game, so the naysaying coaches oops I mean fans don't have anything to complain about. "
RE Football Parent wrote on Sep 16, 2008 10:12 AM:
" You are correct about the boys and how they play football, or any sport, for that matter. These are 15-17 year old kids trying to do their best. I don't think any of them go out on the field and try to lose.
Give them a pat on the back for doing their best. "
Football parent wrote on Sep 15, 2008 6:53 PM:
" To the bloger that wrote to me about bashing the coaches. You are right. I should not say anything about the coaching staff. They are doing a fine job. It was just my anger of seeing how this bunch of people bash a whole crew of fine young men. To the coaches, I am sorry I let my emotions get the best of me I would not want to be in your position and I could not do your job. To the student bashers......my statements stand. You don't like the way our boys play, Don't watch or MOVE. But do not bash good young men be more concerned with your life and that these good young men are not out selling drug and such on your streets, just playing ball. "
bud wrote on Sep 15, 2008 2:05 PM:
" Good guess, that is what I drink. "
cheerleader wrote on Sep 15, 2008 1:59 PM:
" I don't see anything wrong with a rah rah guy or gal, for that matter, coaching. Its called motivation in case you haven't figured that one out. "
Fan wrote on Sep 15, 2008 1:35 PM:
" My husband and young son go to every game (even the out of town games). My seven year old and husband think that the game is exciting to watch even when they lose. Does everyone expect them to win every game? It seems everyone expects them to play perfectly in every game. Are you perfect in life every day? This is high school football people. Keep things in perspective. "
re football parent wrote on Sep 15, 2008 12:31 PM:
" What do you expect when you have a "cheerleader" calling the plays? "
refootball parent wrote on Sep 15, 2008 12:16 PM:
" Stop bashing coaches too. "
re RE re tj sept pm wrote on Sep 15, 2008 11:46 AM:
" Good one. I bet your name is Bud. "
Dick Bennett wrote on Sep 15, 2008 11:22 AM:
" Isn't he the coach that quit twice during the basketball seasons? At Wisconsin and again at Washington State?
If so, he would be a fine addition to the Tomah coaching staff.
When he quits at mid-year Joe Dobson could come back and finish the season "
re re tj wrote on Sep 15, 2008 11:06 AM:
" what is wrong with a taxpayer asking what is going on in the school district? The only reason he is uninformed is because the school is tight lipped about everything.
Your blog is the uninformed one-like most of the rest I've been reading. "
Tomah Parent Fans wrote on Sep 15, 2008 10:59 AM:
" What's the matter does the truth hurt?
Obviously you can't handle the truth. "
football parents wrote on Sep 15, 2008 10:03 AM:
" A number of years back the football team was really having a hard time competing. The comment among the parents in the stands was boy wait until this batch of sophomores are seniors. Two years later the team was still in a struggle to win games and the comments from the crowd was boy wait until this batch of sophomores are seniors!
One of the problems, as I see it, parents set unrealistic athletic goals for their kids. The
average Joe in the stands isn't the problem for pressure on the athletes, its the parents. "
football parent wrote on Sep 14, 2008 8:51 PM:
" For Brad being a young still learning coach I feel he has and is doing an excellent job in all phases of his coaching.
You have to remember, when you get right down to it, most parents don't have a clue on what is going on on the playing field otherwise they would be the coaches. "
Re Boys Basketball wrote on Sep 14, 2008 7:11 PM:
" Rumor has some downtown execs have charted a plane to the state of Washington. Dick Bennet has sent out a text message, that he has an "itch" to get back into high school coaching. He thought Tomah would be the perfect place because he doesn't have to compete against anyone to interview for the job! Stay tuned......... "
RE re tj wrote on Sep 14, 2008 6:59 PM:
" As another taxpayer I would appreciate it if you would close your pie hole and keep your uninformed opinion to yourself. Loser. "
re Football Parent wrote on Sep 14, 2008 5:46 PM:
" Play calling? You question play calling!?!? First, tell me what play, what is is CALLED!!! and what YOU, Mr./Mrs. Joe Paterno, would have called due to defensive tendancies, injury reports, and specific situations.
Know what goes on down there on the sidelines before you question something you have no idea about.
I often here in the stands as I sit there "Give it to so-and-so!!"
"Why aren't we running?"
"What are the coaches thinking!?"
Well, I am sure those coaches say to eachother:
"Let's try to lose"
"Let's not get the 1st down here."
"We should fumble now."
Wow, armchair quaterbacks we all are. "
timberwarrior co-op team wrote on Sep 14, 2008 12:17 PM:
" Lets go co-op with Sparta. That would put the co-op team up into division 1 for athletics.
I'm sure we would be able to compete with the schools in the fox valley, wisconsin valley, and Milwaukee area just fine. "
to a player wrote on Sep 14, 2008 12:01 PM:
" you are right. It's just a game, part of the student athletes high school experience.
10 years from now the local complainers won't remember who played, who they played. the score and who won or lost. It's still just a game. "
re tj wrote on Sep 14, 2008 11:33 AM:
" As a taxpayer supporting the schools, they owe us, as taxpayers more than what they are keeping us informed about. "
re no comments kidding wow get what you deserve wrote on Sep 13, 2008 5:47 PM:
" Your posts could be considered whiney and are not helping either. Not all coaches go through this in Tomah. "
NoKaOi wrote on Sep 13, 2008 2:06 PM:
" Coach Plueger is a great young coach BUT forcing him to coach another major sport is ridiculous!!! Two young kids and another on the way... WOW!!! Think family first Brad, and stay away..... Doing both sports will definitely create coaching burnout!! "
TimberWarrior wrote on Sep 13, 2008 2:01 PM:
" " Tomah tries to put Lipstick on the pig but its still a pig i.e. bad situation! Hey the co-op idean might work. Sparta has Greg Dull to coach the girls. Enough said. (come on all you Dull haters here's your chance) AND Sparta could ressurect former Coach Woody Wilson. Woody could get his personal friend Bobby Knight to make a couple appearances. Bobby would straighten out the parents in no time. So don't cancel those reservations just yet " "
A Player wrote on Sep 13, 2008 11:26 AM:
" Hi everyone. I'm a tomah football player and after reading this i am dissapointed to see the lack of support ive seen. Before we jump to conclusions and blame it imeadiatley on the tomah football players i would like you to consider a few facts so you can see the game in full spectrum. An MVC conference championship is not a title easily carried especially after losing merely an entire deffense and half of an offense. We have a completley new Linebacker staff(whom have never started a varsity game until this year.) New corners who have also never started. Also a fairly new deffensive line. Now you say "WE NEED TO STEP UP and WE ARENT THAT GOOD OF ATHLETES" ask yourself how often weve been given the chance to prove this to you. IS two games enough to make a descion. On another note it is a big part of an athletes career, foR the parents to seek higher praise in their OWN child than others may see. This is what they call motivation, you see when people believe in athletes THEY STEP UP! when people prefer to write blogs and complain the athletes realize that its not all their fault its the lack of trust our community shows. Thank you for your time but i certainly do not thank for your respect toward the game of football and kids who play.
#41 "
Football Parent wrote on Sep 13, 2008 11:09 AM:
" I am a football parent and I do agree that the Offense did not play to their ability. But lets not over look the coaching either. Some plays that have been called are horrible and not right for the time. That is not the "older" kids there, it is the coach. Our kids are good players and if you don't like it don't watch. Shut your flippin mouths and stop bashing teenage boys you frickin cowards and losers that have NOTHING better to do with your rotten little lives then bash good kids. Take a flying one and get off our kids....GOT IT?????? "
lottery wrote on Sep 12, 2008 2:39 PM:
" I think it should be done by lottery. "
RE Everyone wrote on Sep 12, 2008 1:21 PM:
" According to WIAA rules the coaches name doesn't have to be released until a week prior to the first game of the season. "
tj wrote on Sep 12, 2008 11:52 AM:
" The school doesn't owe you a thing. "
re you get what you deserve wrote on Sep 12, 2008 11:04 AM:
" By having the parents coach there would be one less complaint from parents, you can bet THEIR kid will get to play. I agree about the football coach being the basketball coach also.
Lots of rumors about who the coach will be, I heard it will be Greg Dull. If one has been picked the school owes it to us to make that announcement. "
You get what you deserve wrote on Sep 12, 2008 7:49 AM:
" Imagine. It has gotten so bad here in Tomah that we can not even fill the basketball position. My suggestion is this. Maybe the parents of the current team can rotate on a weekly basis. Then they will have nobody to blame but themselves when the team isn't that successful. After all, it is always the coaches fault, right? Also, word on the street is that Coach Plueger is going to be the coach. I am not sure it is wise to have the same coach for two HIGH profile sports. And back to back at that. I am not sure that would be good for his family. "
rebasketball wrote on Sep 12, 2008 7:21 AM:
" Who in their right mind would want the basketball job in Tomah? "
basketball wrote on Sep 11, 2008 4:56 PM:
" A lawsuit probably wouldn't get filed in this case, after all the guy who filed the last one doesn't have any kids playing anymore. "
Boys Basketball wrote on Sep 11, 2008 4:40 PM:
" My guess is after someone is hired an open meeting violation lawsuit will get filed.6 "
boys basketball wrote on Sep 11, 2008 3:24 PM:
" I'm sure whoever they hire the "downtown" coaches will be up in arms about it. "
Boys basketball wrote on Sep 11, 2008 1:04 PM:
" Has there been anything out there yet regarding Tomah hiring a new boys basketball coach yet??? "
Re No kidding wrote on Sep 11, 2008 10:28 AM:
" following Tomah athletics for over 50 years I have always thought that a lot of parents (not all of them, just the most vocal) have always thought their kids were better athletes than they really were or are. "
wow wrote on Sep 11, 2008 8:17 AM:
" Where are all the whiny parents now? Lets move this to 'creating a buzz' and I bet we will find some. "
No kidding wrote on Sep 10, 2008 12:41 PM:
" I think they are too embarrassed and realize maybe their kids aren't that good after all. When given the oppurtunity to step up, they didn't, and you saw the result. "
no comments wrote on Sep 9, 2008 12:25 PM:
" He said he was dissappointed in the older players... and the parents aren't upset with this? Are you finally realizing your kids need to be accountable for their actions... woah - pinch me, are we still in Tomah? "
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