To Wakeup wrote on Aug 26, 2008 10:28 AM:
" you say:
'Unfortunately, the richest Americans pay the vast majority of the tax burden for the nation.'
They should, they get their money from the backs of the poor ... "
Rereaity wrote on Aug 24, 2008 8:33 PM:
" So now you equate ebing excited about Obama to the nazis and you claim others are nuts? "
Reality wrote on Aug 24, 2008 10:40 AM:
" The reality of the situation is government is not our friend. All politicians should be treated with a large amount of skepticism. Voting for me has been reduced to voting for the less of two (or more) evils. Whats really scary is people who idolize Obama or vote based on party affiliation. I'll bet "vote for change" was orginally used by the nazis. "
independent thinking wrote on Aug 20, 2008 8:25 PM:
" RE to Wakeup
Education? We do need to better educate our society and better educate for individual thinking. A well educated and independently thinking populace is in the best interest for a free society. But that will not happen in any way shape or form if there are no teachers or resources or support. Do not condemn a child for the conditions he or she was born into. If we think publicly financing road construction and maintenance is for the good of our society then how much more important should be the education of all our children be?
Fair taxation? When you combine all forms of taxation (payroll, income, sales, property, etc...) guess what the poorest 15 % of the population pays the highest percentage of income to taxes. Lowest resources, highest tax - fair?
Health care reform? Do you really think health insurance is a choice when working families have to choose between food and health insurance? Or for those millions who have those pesky preexisting conditions like cancer that is in remission until they changed jobs and the cancer returns and well - sorry. Oh I guess its like President Bush said I mean, people have access to health care in America. After all, you just go to an emergency room Because cancer is so easy to take care of in the emergency room. All you have to do is let it take over an organ or two so now you have an emergency. Never mind that emergency care is many times more costly that preventative care. Who pays for it? Every person who pays for health insurance pays for emergency care. Wouldnt it be terrible if the government were to set up a health care system? Well, set up a health insurance system other than Medicare and Medicaid and the military health care system, - oh and the veterans health care system. Are there any others?
You can put whatever label you want on those you disagree with but its the substance of actions that should be judged.
Governments role is to keep the playing field to a point that society doesnt infringe on an individuals rights, their God given rights as declared in our Declaration of Independence, of LIFE , LIBERTY and the pursuit of HAPPINESS. Even a democratic (mob rule) and capitalistic (corporate monopoly) society can impede on those rights, so government should guard those rights from mob rule (representative government) and corporate monopoly (corporate regulations). "
WOW wrote on Aug 20, 2008 3:04 PM:
" anyone that thinks Clinton was worse than Bush is a blind fool. That is the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Give me a surplus and good international standing any day. "
RE Re Wake Up wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:22 PM:
" Can you say flip flop? "
RE RE Wakeup wrote on Aug 20, 2008 12:14 PM:
" Don't worry Wakeup I'm with you. I'm not a member of either party but as you stated the Republicans usually best represent my point of view.
People need to be responsible for themselves. We should abolish the Depts of Education and HUD. Let's take our country back. Parents be responsible etc etc. And one more shocker for you Bush haters. Clinton was much worse. "
RE Wake Up wrote on Aug 20, 2008 6:52 AM:
" Having been a member of the Republican Party for nearly 30 years, your email has convinced me to drop my membership and support for the Republican Party.
It wasn't just your article, as I have been considering it for the past seven years. Your article just put me over the top. "
Wakeup wrote on Aug 19, 2008 5:04 PM:
" "education, fair taxation, and health care reform"
Education? What type of education are you referring to? The type that teaches our children how to think for themselves, or the type that indoctrinates our children to better serve the all-powerful State and the various agendas of the NEA?
Fair taxation? How do you classify fair? It would seem to me that the general progressive taxation scheme involves taking from the rich and giving to the poor. Unfortunately, the richest Americans pay the vast majority of the tax burden for the nation.
Health care reform? Do you want to reform the free markets, or would you rather our income, OASDI, and Medicare taxes go up even higher, so those that don't have insurance, most of whom chose to not have insurance, can be nannied by the state? Then again, why should we care. Us little folks will not have to pay for it, just tax the rich even more. Better yet, just take all of the "extra" profits from the big, bad oil corporations and give it to the "poor."
You see "proud to be a rural progressive," that is the problem with liberalism, progressivism, and Democrats. On paper, your ideals sound well intentioned. However, more often than not, what you're really advocating is socialism and a minimization of the motives behind self-preservation and complete, unabashed, child-like dependence on the State. It is romantic idealism, and time and time again that denial of the reality of life has proven to lead to ignorant, immoral and failed policies!
Lastly, I am not a registered Democrat or Republican. I will vote for whomever I feel is best able to handle the situations that will arise during their time in office. It just so happens that the Republican platform best represents my point of view. "
Proud to be a rural progressive wrote on Aug 19, 2008 4:09 PM:
" I live in Monroe county and fully support progressive values of education, fair taxation, and health care reforms. I am not a member of the local Democratic Party, yet strongly support their views and effort. I am a veteran and come from a long family history of veterans who support important progressive issues.
Perhaps you should wake up to the travesties that the Bush administration, filled with lies and mismanagement, has brought to our country. I used to be an independent yet this administration has so outraged that I can never see myself voting for a Republican again. I know many of my friends, neighbors, and fellow veterans feel the same way.
I have traveled oversees over the past two decades and it is a shame to see how badly our reputation for human rights has been tarnished by this administration. We need to reclaim our values and rebuild our stature in the world. Obama offers real solution to difficult problems, not just more tired rhetoric and fear.
Obama offers us an opportunity to reclaim the values of helping our neighbors and believing in peace as a Christian value. I am a Christian and I live in a rural county and Obama has my full support because I place value beyond a singular issue. So don't assume all Democrats live in Madison. They are your fellow citizens trying to build a better community. I want my faith to lead to better lives for all Americans, not just those in the top income brackets. I beleive that if we focused on solutions as opposed to blaming each other much could be accomplished. "
Wakeup wrote on Aug 18, 2008 2:47 PM:
" Ahhh...the good ole' progressive values of controlled markets, peter pan legislation, welfare, abortion, perpetuation of moral ambiguity, blame America first, blame Bush for you having stubbed your toe, rain falling on your parade, your streak of bad luck, your car's tire failing, your diagnosis of diabetes, etcetera, and complete denial of individual accountability. Yes, Wisconsin does need to return to those good ole' days.
Ain't it grand?!
The Democratic party needs focus on their home turfs of Madison and Milwaukee, because the rest of us in Wisconsin can take care of ourselves and we support conservative values!
Maybe if the Democratic party were not completely engulfed in the flames of rampant and ignorant liberalism, they would have greater support in rural areas! "
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