To ten o five am wrote on Jul 3, 2008 10:00 AM:
" No, I have not been there. Which is why it should be left up to the soldiers who are there whether to share their faith or not. Capice? "
Savvy wrote on Jul 3, 2008 7:04 AM:
" You are clueless period. "
To peace out wrote on Jul 2, 2008 4:05 PM:
" No one has to appreciate someones speech or expression. But, that doesn't mean they shouldn't speak or express it. Savvy? "
Peace out wrote on Jul 2, 2008 10:05 AM:
" Iraq is NOT AMERICA....therefore "our" freedom's of speech/expression IS NOT appreciated there....go serve then maybe you will understand. Unless you have been there, you don't have a clue and I am assuming you do not have a clue. "
To six fifty nine am wrote on Jul 1, 2008 8:12 PM:
" Of course I do. That's the point. Peace out. "
To To Cagefighter Laz wrote on Jul 1, 2008 6:59 AM:
" You are right, everyone has an opinion and they are not the same. Who cares what your momma said anyway. Not everyone shares YOUR belief's, sorry, this is America, remember freedom of speech and expression?? "
To Cagefighter Laz wrote on Jun 30, 2008 1:49 PM:
" That is your opinion. People who have a different opinion than you are allowed to share their beliefs with others. Sorry you don't like it, but like my momma always used to say: "Sometimes it just beeeeez that way!" "
Cagefighter Laz wrote on Jun 28, 2008 5:41 PM:
" This isn't the world of Cagefighter either. You people are AFRAID the world will end, so be it when the time comes. If you are so religious and believe all the signs point to the end of times, why are you pushing it??? Seems to me, that you want to fullfill a prophecy by making it come true!! Share your religion on your own time, people can be affended by your rude ways of pushing it on people and you thinking you are all oppressed, all I hear is hippocracy. We want to be heard because we are oppressed....you want to "run" the world because you all think you are right about everything. "
Holy Cow wrote on Jun 27, 2008 4:51 PM:
" I wonder how the progressives that think our soldiers should check their faith at the door will feel when our soldiers spread the Gospel in Iran, after the US bombs Iran for bombing Israel in retaliation for Israel taking out Iran's nuclear sites, just after our election in november? "
To and... wrote on Jun 27, 2008 3:56 PM:
" No, sorry. Congress would actually have to make a law establishing a religion in order for a violation to occur. A soldier sharing his faith would not qualify. "
and... wrote on Jun 27, 2008 1:42 PM:
" Congress is the body with the authority to declare war. Therefore, all military activity in Iraq is done under congressional authority. Using congressional authority to advocate a religion sounds a lot like establishment of a national religion to me. "
Cagefighter to Bob wrote on Jun 27, 2008 10:03 AM:
" It seems as if you are the one telling all of us what we can and can't do. Sorry, this isn't the country of "Bob". People have the right to not share their faith, but they also have the right TO share their faith. "
To seems to me.. wrote on Jun 27, 2008 9:59 AM:
" No, the Constitution forbids Congress making a law establishing religion. It does not prohibit soldiers sharing their faith. Nice try though. "
Chris King wrote on Jun 27, 2008 8:08 AM:
" Did somebody actually state that when our soldiers kill someone in the line of duty, they are committing murder?
There is a difference between killing and murdering, much like police officers in the line of duty! "
Bob not Bob W. wrote on Jun 27, 2008 2:56 AM:
" Some of the worst atrocities in history were done by people who thought they were doing the right thing.
BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE. KEEP IT IN YOUR HEART AND YOUR HOME. OBEY THE LAW AND PAY YOUR TAXES BUT DONT THINK JUST BECAUSE SOMEONES LIFESTYLE IS DIFFERENT THAN YOURS THAT YOU SHOULD TELL THEM WHAT TO DO OR WHAT TO BELIEVE IN.
Organized religion of all forms is the worst thing that has ever happend to this world. Believe what you want to believe just dont push it on some one else. Your opinion is your opinion but dont think for a second that your opinion matters to someone else.
Just because someone is practicing something you dont believe in does not mean your wrong or their wrong and DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO TELL THEM OR SCARE THEM INTO YOUR OPINION OR POINT OF VIEW.
No christian in this era has ever been persecuted for their religion like they were in the biblical days. Therefore christians who dislike or unfairly treat people of other beliefs are being hypocritical in the worst ways, which is exactly the opposite of what the stories in the bible are trying to get accross.
DO GOOD THINGS AND BE NICE!!! NUFF SAID. "
Seems to me... wrote on Jun 26, 2008 6:00 PM:
" That having uniformed US Soldiers advocating any religion over any other could be construed as governmental sanctioning of an "approved" religion. This is awfully close to the "establishment" of a national religion.
Do the soldiers need to "check their faith" at the door? Of course not. But, as governmental agents, they should not be advocating any religion over another. They should remember that they are not fighting as a representative of their faith, they are representatives of our government. Obviously their faith is important to them, and one of the main driving factors that keeps them going, but it's not what they're there for, unless you believe this is another Crusade.
That's why past presidents, many of them founding fathers of our nation abstained from numerous religious practices while they were in office. They (the guys who wrote the Constitution) thought that by publicly participating in religious practices, they were coming too close to establishing a national religion by their actions. Every action taken by our soldiers is governmental action. They act based on governmental policy and under the auspices of governmental authority.
By conducting themselves in this manner they are establishing that christianity is our national religion. Isn't that exactly what the Constitution prohibits? "
To Chris wrote on Jun 26, 2008 4:26 PM:
" More and more "Christian's" are becoming the enemy, too many false prophets to sort it all out. "
To Chris King wrote on Jun 26, 2008 4:22 PM:
" Thou shalt not murder.....hmmm, are they supposed to just stand there and get shot at rather than shoot back?? If we have leader's that believe and live a secular life, why are they even joining the military?? If the mission of the soldiers to help them establish democracy, not Christianity. Yes, we are victim's of this war, but that we can thank our President for. Religion should be kept to the "green zone" or camp area or among the soldiers. They can carry a small bible in their pocket, they have free time to use to live their Christianity. Yes, when it comes to combat, prayer before a mission is bountiful but we must also except boundries to our faith when in a foreign land.
Again, "talking to a group of Iraq's" first we need to establish communication before we push our religion on them. We need to make them understand that we are caring people FIRST before we even deliver that Christianity stuff.
Again Chris, unless you have served in a combat zone, you have no idea about the mission, discipline, training and the everyday stress of wondering if you will ever see your loved ones again. Handing out token's at a check point is like asking to be blown up, sorry that is just my opinion. What an insult, then we have to apologize for our stupidity. "
Lazarus wrote on Jun 26, 2008 2:08 PM:
" There's nothing new here, Mr. Weitzel.
Even the Bible states that the Gospel will be preached to the WHOLE world near the end times.
Big deal.
It's not a "convert or die" issue like you are trying to imply that it is. Unlike in Islam, where it really is, and commanded by their Koran, "convert to Islam or die!"
Nice try with your leftist propaganda though Mr. Weitzel, once again trying to make the Islamists the "poor victims" and anyone who happens to be Christian and sounding an alarm, a "vicious murdering marauder." "
Bradford wrote on Jun 26, 2008 8:35 AM:
" Congress should take better care in commissioning the officers for our military. As a way to screen out those fit for military service, ask whether they believe in God. If the answer is yes, based on this article, clearly that individual is disqualified from leading our young men and women. "
Chris King wrote on Jun 26, 2008 8:26 AM:
" So, what many of you are saying is, "Please join the military and defend our nation, put your lives at risk, and check your faith at the door."
Secular individuals have got to understand that those of faith cannot separate their lives from their faith. Their faith is their life! Therefore, asking a Christian, who has a primary responsibility to God to spread the Gospel, to check their faith at the door is a violation of their God given, constitutional rights and an assault on their conscience. What kind of thanks is that for our soldiers?
AGAIN, I REPEAT, LET'S TRY TO REMEMBER THAT THAT THE TERRORISTS ARE ENEMIES, NOT CHRISTIANS OR OUR SOLDIERS! America is the victim in this fight, and we better grab hold of that idea or it's all over. "
To to Bob wrote on Jun 26, 2008 6:43 AM:
" Freedom of expression is different HERE then THERE. Think about it. If they all HATED us so much, they would have killed all American's so it isn't the Muslim's that we need to be afraid of, it is the Extremists. They have killed way more of THEIR own then the troops. You don't insult them. Tell ya what, go to a foreign country and TRY your "freedom of expression for religion" there, then come back and tell us all about it. Read a little history on the area. Go and shoot up their Quran, show them the bottom of your feet and make all the "freedom of expression" for religion and if you make it back, we would be interested in how you did. Get it?? It's an INSULT to them, esp. at a check point. Ever been there?? Done that?? I doubt it, you are too busy expressing your "freedom for religion". The militaries mission is not to convert them, that is up to the churches and missionaries. "
To Bob wrote on Jun 25, 2008 4:15 PM:
" So, people should have freedom of expression, as long as they keep that expression to themselves? Thanks for clarifying. "
Re column wrote on Jun 25, 2008 3:31 PM:
" Very nice piece and straight to the point. "
Re Chris King wrote on Jun 24, 2008 5:32 PM:
" Why don't you join the military then and go "spread" your word....better yet, just go over there on your own and try to convince them they are wrong. "
They Come wrote on Jun 24, 2008 6:41 AM:
" To a foreign country, the mission is not trying to convert them to Christianity and it may be offensive to them. Esp when it is FORCED upon them at check points. That is NOT their faith and they think of us as evil so to PUSH our religion on them is wrong. Soldiers can express their religion with the Chaplian, that is his job for the soldier's, not the soldier's to convert the Muslim's. Bob is right, Chris, you are wrong. "
Bob Weitzel wrote on Jun 23, 2008 1:26 PM:
" Chris, Imagine this if you can. The United States is invaded and occupied my an Arab military force that is predominately Muslim. Your kid . . if you have any . . .is stopped at a checkpoint by a Muslim soldier who tells him/her that Jesus is actually Satan and that your child, and you, are going to burn in hell because you do not believe is Allah. Tell me, does that Arab soldier have the right to practice his religion as he see fit in your "Christian" country with your christian kid? Remember Chris, telling a lie is a big no-no in for guys who believe like you do.
Put your bible down and read some history. I can't do all your research for you. Do you have any idea why Arabs in the Middle East have a particular hatred for the policies of the the U.S. government. And it's not because they hate our freedom or your Christianity . . . get a grip Chris, they have bigger fish to fry. Start by reading about the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. Read about the America's irrational support for Israel's policies that do nothing but inflame the Arab's hatred for both them and their unconditional ally--the U.S. Read about their ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians in 1948. Read about Israel's repressive policies regarding the Palestinians, their collective punishment, their torture, their imprisoning both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank behind a 40-foot concrete wall that U.S. taxpayers are paying for to the tune of one million dollars per mile. KNOWLEDGE, CHRIS, WILL SET YOU FREE. LOSE THE BIBLE OR KEEP YOUR RELIGION IN YOUR OWN POCKET WHERE IT BELONGS . . AND YES, U.S. MILITARY NEED TO DO THE SAME THING. "
Chris King wrote on Jun 23, 2008 11:20 AM:
" Weitzel...have you gone so far left that you now think our soldiers do not have a right to practice their religion as they see fit?
Hagee's position on "end times" has nothing to do with the overall War On Terror or Islamic Extremism. The fact is that it is Islamic Extremists that are attempting to end America and kill every one of it's citizens they can. It is not bigoted to say that. However, it is completely ignorant for you to miss that fact! It would behoove many Americans to remember who our real enemies are. Our soldiers and Christians are not the enemy, as Mr. Weitzel would have us believe.
The enemy is Islamic Extremists, who are terrorists of the first order! I commend the soldiers in our forces that have found a way to serve their country in the line of duty, according to the US Constitution and a way to serve our Lord by spreading the word of God. Our soldiers are not required to check their faith at the door. In fact, I would imagine that the veracity of many of our soldiers courage is derived from their faith in Jesus! Why are leftist, progressive and liberal folks so afraid of somebody telling another about Jesus? Furthermore, why are they so afraid to disparage the religion of Islam, while freely trashing the true religion of peace, Christianity? "