re rehall of fame wrote on May 11, 2008 1:00 PM:
" What a crazy thing. Why would anyone want Dull back here. Let Sparta win and win, we do not need that type of thing here. "
rererere hall off ame wrote on May 11, 2008 12:56 PM:
" They are apparently good at math though, since he has been there they are 7-1 verses the Tomah machine. Let's see, how were things when he was here? Oh, one loss to Sparta in the last ten years he coached the Tomah team. Thank god he is not here. "
rererehalloffame wrote on May 11, 2008 8:48 AM:
" Yeah your right, the people of Sparta have never been known for their intelligence. "
rerehall of fame wrote on May 10, 2008 12:00 PM:
" I am sure that is a sentiment held by many Sparta players and parents. "
rehall of fame wrote on May 9, 2008 11:56 PM:
" i'm just thankful dull is coaching at sparta and not tomah "
Jim Mora wrote on May 9, 2008 8:33 PM:
" Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame, are you kidding me, Hall of Fame. "
re rere realistic thinker wrote on May 9, 2008 2:28 PM:
" I believe the intent on the blog was to listen to those around you esp. those that do not agree with everything you do and say. Too many ssmmoozzeerrss in this town. "
Re hall of fame wrote on May 9, 2008 1:27 PM:
" :) "
Rerealistic thinker wrote on May 9, 2008 12:42 PM:
" I am assuming you wuill apply? "
Rere realistic thinker wrote on May 9, 2008 12:37 PM:
" If you know so much as your posts seems to say, then apply for the openings. It is very easy to coach from the bleachers or sidelines. "
rere realistic thinker wrote on May 9, 2008 12:18 PM:
" So you are proposing that the head coach conferenece with parents to see what he did wrong? "
hall of fame wrote on May 9, 2008 11:17 AM:
" Dull, you will never get to the hall of fame. "
RE realistic thinker wrote on May 9, 2008 10:40 AM:
" I think you hit it right on the head. Everyone needs to realize there are great, mediocre, and poor performing people in every profession. (Business, construction, and yes maybe even teachers) Teachers have a thankless job and I tip my hat to most. But lets be realistic. "
re realistic thinker wrote on May 9, 2008 8:49 AM:
" The equation for effective coaching is staying current through RESEARCH (games, plays and motivational techniques); LISTENING, and OBSERVING. This can not be accomplished if you only listen to those that agree with you and pat you on the back (colleagues, family, and community). Staying on top of your game on the court and in the classroom means that you constantly reevaluate what is applied and you can only do that if you take in opinions that are different from your own. This is to be EXPECTED from certified teachers. If the kids are to acknowledge their mistakes and take corrective action the the coaches must honor that as well. When those watching can predict what will happen before the coach calls it, then there is a problem. The coach should acknowledge every player playing and those sitting on the bench. Reading what works for each athlete without making differences is important at the high school level. Barking, being hyper, cheerleading, playing favorites, and constantly sending mixed signals and messages prevents you from observing and listening and the atletes from concentrating and being motivated. This benefits no one. It is considered acceptable beyond college when you have made the decision to play for $$$$$$$$. Many basketball players that will be seniors next year have played together for ever and have been competitive at lower levels (and there is height mind you). As for baseball, except for varsity, the coaches at the lower levels have NO HELP with batting, pitching , etc so bad habits develop and are later perfected. Few kids play for or enjoy Legion so that really doesnt help either. By the time they are on varsity, it is very hard to suddenly correct was has been done wrong for years. These two programs are struggling for reasons that no one will acknowledge or accept. Until the blame game is over the kids are the one who suffers the most. Adults that apply and accept a position are paid employees through tax dollars; they should know what to expect so sympathy should not apply especially for those who have 4-6 of college in the area of child development and methods. Unfortunately, they have to know and accept that it is a thankless and difficult job. A teacher has a hard enough job from 8-3 without being tasked for extracurricilar that they do not want bsecause in the long run EVERYONE suffers. "
rererealistic thinker wrote on May 8, 2008 5:16 PM:
" Take constructive criticism from whom?Parents .try not to be too ridiculous "
You dont show up at HS wrote on May 8, 2008 4:28 PM:
" Without having some ability to play a sport and succeed. Those programs with "average height" that produce "great ball handlers" do certainly do exist, but those kids weren't taught to dribble by the varsity coach. They knew that before they got there. You can't learn all of anything in one sitting. A kid ends up a good shooter, or dribbler or whatever because they've practiced their skills for years. The way those programs end up with those kids is because the kids have had good coaches for many years. The kids learn from parents, friends, coaches, and mostly by doing.
Things like youth sports, mini-clinics put on by coaches, and things of that nature done well before the player gets up to the varsity level are how the kids develop those skills. It takes a long time to build a program that can be consistently competitive like that. For whatever reason though, people from Tomah seem to think that they're entitled to everything now.
The real problem is that all this bickering about basketball, art class...whatever...is only going to have one real loser. The kids. "
re realistic thinker wrote on May 8, 2008 3:56 PM:
" Some thrive and others must suffer?? That is not realistic that is caving in. There are many teams without a lot of height that are competitive. I know of tall players that can only stand post and nothing else. Excuses are never answers and excuses will never develop a winning program. "
re realistic thinker wrote on May 8, 2008 3:31 PM:
" I agree with part of what you said. However, hiring a qualified coach does not mean that he will be an EFFECTIVE coach because he also teaches. Many schools have average height but produce outstanding ball handlers. Making excuses for those leading a program will never help build one either. Having coaches that will listen and that can take constructive criticism from others that will be HONEST with them is the first step for lasting the first few years. Kids are pretty intuitive and most will be honest if they are not in fear of being benched. "
Re realistic thinker wrote on May 8, 2008 1:52 PM:
" Do not think winning alone will quiet these hateful Tomah floks. Ask coach Russel. Her certainly won more then he lost over the years. "
Re realistic thinker wrote on May 8, 2008 1:51 PM:
" Right on the money. "
Realistic Thinker wrote on May 8, 2008 12:05 PM:
" It takes years to build a program and, unfortunately, the community gives coaches such a short leash that they quit before realizing the fruits of their labor. Without support from the community, every coach you get will leave in a few years because they hate dealing with this community, trust me. Also, in order for a few sports to thrive, others must suffer. Great wrestling team + good football team + good hockey team = mediocre basketball team. Look around the conference and find me one school that dominates, without the use of recruiting, in all sports... there isn't one. When THS starts to get some height, shortest in the conference, and SUPPORT (and no, support is not undermining a coach during a game by hurling insults) from the community, you will see a winning basketball program again. "
rehire the best candiate wrote on May 7, 2008 11:08 AM:
" No I am a coach who may, just may, get in the high school hall of fame and I could not disagree with you and your group of teacher bashers more. "
concerned wrote on May 6, 2008 10:11 PM:
" Thank you Mary for the excellent written message. We have a wonderful staff here in Tomah who deserve to be appreciated not battered by his words. By the way it is "teacher appreciation week". Good job teachers. I hope this will open the eyes of many, so others won't be lead down Mr. Buswell's path of thinking. And one last note - for all of you who don't know - his wife is on the school board. Perhaps a conflict of interest??? Once again, thank you Mary so much for taking the time to tell the true story and facts! "
How about EFFECTIVE teaching and coaching wrote on May 6, 2008 7:17 PM:
" If all of this is true, can any of the former or current teachers explain to me why TASD standardized math scores indicate that the graduates are not doing well in math at the next level? The math department obviously has the credentials, education and certification and maybe even experience but it is obvious that an overhaul is needed. Can an admistrator or teacher please acknowledge the problem and take a stand without blaming the students limited background, resources, or capabilites? Tomah is not that transient. There are only a couple of the high school math teachers that "get it", ask the kids they will tell you that they have a system of coping to get by. I know the admnistration has been told by staff, parents, and students but they are choosing not to address it for what seems to be old school reasons. To assume that a child will never get it is unspeakable to me. There have been many kids that have had that light bulb moment when given the proper intervention instead of sweeping them under the rug for the next grade level to deal with. So sad to assume that by graduating with a certain degree that what is learned is applied in the classroom OR on the field. At the high school level it is not the parents job to tutor because they probably can't. Again we are NOT talking about a few that can go to tutoring after school if they are willing to give up all extra curricular. Other departments seem to make the grade and the students can still participate in after school programs without going to tutoring every week. My understanding is many freshman at college from THS have to go remedial math their freshman year. Qualified versus effective, only effective wins in the long term. Professional development coursework helps ONLY when APPLIED and the students or athletes RESPOND! "
Thanks Mary wrote on May 6, 2008 6:56 PM:
" Thank you Mary for a wonderful response to Brian Buswell's rant about sports, coaches and teachers. The lawsuit against the TASD (which we taxpayers paid!)did not cover the Procedure for Hiring Advisors and Coaches. This policy is what Buswell really wanted to be changed. He didn't get his way, so he will continue to push his weight around. He doesn't have the support in this community that he would like to think that he has. "
Another problem wrote on May 6, 2008 6:46 PM:
" With the combined education that the teachers and administration have, it is interesting to me that no one has figured out why some of the programs are struggling to keep good athletes and qualified coaches. When observing youth programs that travel around the region and the MVC, some of the teams do very, very well and have been doing so for years; then they all of a sudden they fizzle at the high school? Then yes, you have a problem at the HIGH SCHOOL. When MANY kids have played the sport since they were very young and loved it but no longer wants to compete AFTER making the team then yes you MAY have a problem at the high school. Sometimes a teacher/coach is criticized unfairly. Take baseball for example, there is a teacher at the middle school who is a great guy and has put in a lot of hours and did the absolute best he could with absolutely no help with pitching, hitting, and infielding. This does not reflect his coaching but the lack of help. What are the kids supposed to do when they make varsity suddenly perform? Legion only works for a few kids and they also have their issues that they will not address which adds to the problem. The current coaches that should have stepped up for the varsity slot probably did not want the positon because the system is broken and having a supporting role is more enjoyable. If you want a program to work then you have to take an honest look at what is happening and why. Research and apply! Towns smaller than Tomah have done it, this community just needs to come together and learn from what HAS NOT worked in the past and let old wounds heal. This is not rocket science. "
re rehire the best candidates wrote on May 6, 2008 6:18 PM:
" TASD has enough kids to cultivate talent. Many, many areas have successful programs and it starts with community/youth programs that works with the schools and ALL should be organized, fair, positive, disciplined, and proactive with recruiting and coaching. Your succesful programs have this. There is substandard coaching in the district by a few of the teachers. For the community to make excuses for a few hometown teacher/coaches is ridiculous. To insult the kids that are participating in athletics (instead of being on the street) is the most ABSURD statement yet. Our tax dollars fund the programs so our opinion should matter. Fix the system and leave the kids alone. If the coaches can not take constructive criticism so that a program can improve then what can we expect of our student athletes in the future? For any coach or citizens to blame the kids is WRONG!! Does the town and district ever observe and study other cities/towns programs that work? If is not around here then by all means research those that are out of state. Here is another eye opener...when kids (note plural) do not go out for a particular sport and they are pretty good and an all around good athlete then there is a PROBLEM!! Maybe the teacher/coach needs to apply what he/she studied for 4 to 6+ years (this only makes them more qualified IF they utilize the psychological, motivational, and strategic thinking course work dictated by their degree program). Knowing that they have the appropriate certification and experience makes it hard to observe in the stands when it is consistently not applied at practice and during games. "
funny.... wrote on May 6, 2008 4:58 PM:
" I thought I sent my children to school to be educated not sports heroes?! "
To Teacher wrote on May 6, 2008 4:09 PM:
" Unfortunately you are wrong. Although high school athletics SHOULD be about the educational value of sports--working as a team, maintaining dignity and composure in the face of great odds, humility in both victory and defeat, the lifelong health benefits of sports--it's not. It is all about winning. What a shame. "
hire the best candidate wrote on May 6, 2008 3:51 PM:
" It has nothing to do with who comes out in a given year, you must be another teacher/coach that blames the school,parents and athletes when it really is a coach that is not able to make adjustments and motivate their athletes. "
re rehire the best candidates wrote on May 6, 2008 3:24 PM:
" Great!! Another business owner that thinks he runs Tomah. Anyone want to guess who he is? They both get together and try to find things wrong in our community through there eyes. Two business owners can ruin it for the rest of the business in Tomah. Let's see, pay to drive to Lacrosse and shop or listen to some spoiled business owners wine because their kids should have been pros. Sorry, money can not buy talent. I'll shop in LaCrosse until our business's appreciate our community. When you knock our schools (teachers), you knock our community!! "
Teacher wrote on May 6, 2008 1:30 PM:
" THERE IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EDUCTORS AND "BUISNESS". WE LOOK PAST THE WON LOST RECORD AND LOOK AT THE EDUCATIONAL VALUE OF ATHLETICS. "
rehire the best candidates wrote on May 6, 2008 11:27 AM:
" I would propose that if you had no more choice then coaches have in regards to who comes out in a given year, you would have a record exactly like the coaches. It's a false comparision you wish to use. "
hire the best candidate wrote on May 6, 2008 10:54 AM:
" I am from the business world so be careful in comparing teaching and the business world, if our business had a record like alot of the sports programs in Tomah we would be fired. "
Sick of being Bullied wrote on May 6, 2008 9:46 AM:
" No matter what the School Board elects to do, Mr Buswell will sue the school district. After all, owns a business in Tomah, so he thinks he owns Tomah. We can not afford to keep fighting his STUPID law suits!! My taxes are high enough without some "Rich Guy" causing my taxes to go up even more. If he thinks Tomah is so bad then he should take his business and move out of Tomah. He will never move because he's getting rich off of us yet he knocks Tomah (us) every chance he gets. It's time for us tax payers to give Mr Buswell a message and that message should be "If you don't like it here then MOVE and STOP suing the hands that feed you!" We know you want Tomah to fear you. P.S. Please don't sue me. "
remerit hiring wrote on May 6, 2008 6:51 AM:
" Brian's assumption is that any teacher hired is a poor choice. Anyone who takes a clear headed look at this can see it is about Brian wanting control.There are two programs in Tomah in big trouble and while all this nonsense goes on both sit without leadership going into a very busy summer season. Boys' and girls' basketball will be damaged a lot by waiting for such a long time to pick new leadership. "
Merit hiring wrote on May 5, 2008 9:16 AM:
" There are a few well written/eduacated responses on the merit hiring blog that dispute this. "
perspective from GD wrote on May 5, 2008 8:29 AM:
" Mary, you are asking Brian to see the big picture. Don't hold your breath waiting for him to get some perspective on the place of sports in the high school experience. "