rerefather wrote on May 10, 2008 7:40 PM:
" Off track once again...this is about getting to play while suspended from school. Two days after 2 violations in a season that includes a suspension from school does not seem right either. Other kids have gotten more for far less and this is fact. This is not about parenting or what kids get what playing time (lets let the coach worry about that). Validating what is a good role model is completely subjective and a waste of time. "
refather wrote on May 9, 2008 11:49 PM:
" I believe Tyler has only got in trouble with drinking once and that was this past time so that would be his first drinking offense.....cindy and kevin are great parents they sure don't need any questioning on the parenting skills...for you who are wondering the athletic code violations.. Do you have a brain, can you not look it up yourself? It sounds like to me there are a lot of angry parents on here because they think there kid is better than they are and are not getting to much playing time...you parents are not setting a good example to your children by coming on here and bashing parents and players..you need to grow up just alittle "
Re Father wrote on May 9, 2008 2:14 PM:
" No, the funny part was you being wrong. Do you think you may have some other things messed up also? "
rereFATHER wrote on May 9, 2008 1:41 PM:
" so funny bickering over dates. He was caught saturday night drunk at school, supposidly turned himself in and if he did the punishment should have kicked in immediately, suspended on Monday and even after "turning himself in" got to play on Tuesday against Aquanis as proven by the article then he did miss the next two away games and played last night at home. "
Re Father wrote on May 9, 2008 12:19 PM:
" Monday game rained out vs Hudson. Tuesday vs Aquinas. Did you sit and watch an empty field? "
RE REFATHER wrote on May 9, 2008 11:30 AM:
" He did play on Monday (the article proves this and check the schedule for yourself if you have to) and that is what the hoopla is about. He sat out the next two away games. If you were at the games you would know what is fact to include the behavior response coaching maybe who knows, parent in the stand not. "
REFATHER wrote on May 9, 2008 10:02 AM:
" I read the facts that were presented and understand the explanation. Yeah, I know the family. I know the dad is easy going and some of you are so bitter for more reasons than this. Read again, the kid was was suspended from school on Monday and did not play on Monday. He sat out his games after it was official. Mean is mean, what a joke! I've watch him coach kids for years and I bet if you ask the kids, they would set you straight. "
rere Cindy wrote on May 9, 2008 9:35 AM:
" And I would think that by working in the schools and knowing that you are observed more than other parents who do not you would know to dress professionally and act age appropriate while on shcool grounds. "Come see me and I will show you the facts"? No thank you, I can read and I would think that this type of response would receive counseling by her administration especially given what time her responses were written. "
re Cindy wrote on May 9, 2008 8:02 AM:
" You obviously can sound threatening but can not explain the facts. Perhaps an open forum in public will work for you. That way we are protected and have witnesses and everyone can avoid a disordely conduct citation. "
re father wrote on May 9, 2008 7:59 AM:
" He is suspended from school but can play that afternoon? Wow...what a lucky break. Didn't the Coach throw in an extra day so does that mean the AD cited him only one day? He had to sit out at the beginning of the season also so this is number 2 and still got to play when suspended from school? Being cool with the "kids" seems to be more important than being respected for many. Again, lucky break because when this is changed he will already have graduated. "
re Cindy Felber wrote on May 9, 2008 7:48 AM:
" I also work for the schools. As a staff member, we should hold ourselves to a higher standard and always lead by example. Our children will make mistakes along with everyone elses and when they do it is natural for others to speculate when they do seem to get away with more. As district employee it is our responsibility to ensure this does not happen and if it should for whatever reason, we should always take the high road instead of being defensive and threatening. "
recindy and father wrote on May 9, 2008 7:15 AM:
" Isn't is amazing that one parent comes on this blog being defensive and pretending like the kid did nothing wrong. Then the other parent comes on wanting us to all feel sorry for the kid because he made a mistake. Well guess what, this isn't the first time the kid was drinking. We are suppose to forgive him for his issues just because he got caught. Give me a break!!! He came to the school drunk. The parents need to be parents and set better examples. Stay out of the bar and take care of your kids. "
re dad and mom wrote on May 8, 2008 7:37 PM:
" how cool that you can use work time to do your blogging! "
re father and Cindy Felber wrote on May 8, 2008 4:38 PM:
" Quit fanning the flames and maybe it will go away. What you give is normally what you receive. Those who bash others, and is rude and abrasive in public can normally take a little heat. "
re re father wrote on May 8, 2008 4:16 PM:
" did you read the second post (and others) from the family member? That is mean and defensive. What doesn't the father show such "love" and compassion at the games toward some of the other kids who makes "mistakes" on the field? Mean is as mean does. Can't have it both ways. "
refather wrote on May 8, 2008 4:05 PM:
" He was suspended from school on Monday and played on Tuesday. His penalty was two games after the paperwork was filed. I don't lie and this will be my last blog. All we did was follow what what was presented to us. Conspiracy theory aside. Sorry if the truth bothers you. Take it up with rules committee. "
re father wrote on May 8, 2008 3:45 PM:
" I do not think this is about poor judgement (that is a given) but instead always getting a way with more. He is not a kid. He is 18. "
re father wrote on May 8, 2008 3:02 PM:
" nice sentiment. If that is true then how did he get to play on Monday if the AD knew before then? why have the other kids missed more games when turning themselves in? did their parents get to "agree to a punishment"? More of a concern is fair distribution of consequences esp. for the kids that show a drinking problem. getting caught drinking at a party is one thing showing up at school drunk as a second or more offense is deserving of suspension. Some kids always seem to get away with more than the others. By the way bashing is coming from both sides. "
Re father wrote on May 8, 2008 2:02 PM:
" Kids make mistakes.He paid hi9s penalty so as far as i am concrened its a done deal. Trouble is the mean litle town we all call home. "
Father of the only kid who has ever used poor judgement wrote on May 8, 2008 1:39 PM:
" I just started reading this and found it quite amusing. I really I hope I don't offend anyone, like many of you have accomplished. My son made some mistakes and is paying for it in baseball and home. As for following the code, Tyler called over the weekend and reported it before the adminstration even notified us of the pending atheletic suspension. (we picked up on the first call believe it or not!) We agreed to what was recommended and that was that. I agree he made a mistake and used extemely poor judgement, but I believe he can learn from it. I still love him and always will, so maybe you can take a little heat off my family and just bash me instead. I can take it. "
Cindy Felber wrote on May 8, 2008 1:33 PM:
" Why not come and see me and I can help you with the facts. "
re cindy felber wrote on May 8, 2008 7:46 AM:
" does stupid mean when they do not agree? we are still waiting for you to set the record straight "
reCindy Felber wrote on May 8, 2008 7:41 AM:
" What are the facts? That following the code to a T means that once you are notified by a cop that you can delay answering phone calls by the administration so that a game can be played? "
To all parents wrote on May 6, 2008 9:32 PM:
" Do not worry about these kids. When your child is excelling in college, Mom and Dad Enabler will still be taking care of their kids, even if it is after they get off of 3rd shift and drive the latest sports car.... "
re baseball parent and parents also cited wrote on May 6, 2008 7:39 PM:
" Well said. Maybe if everyone else who agrees with you told them what they really thought they would quiet down and later realize they serve no good to anyone by cinstanly lashing out in public. this needs to stop "
re re athletic code wrote on May 6, 2008 7:29 PM:
" didn't they create this situation "by themselves"? "
Wow wrote on May 6, 2008 7:23 PM:
" It seems like former play ground bullies are still trying to protect and make excuses for their own kind even as adults "
re re athletic code wrote on May 6, 2008 5:41 PM:
" One game so far for the latest violation is not a few. A general comment was made and she decided to post her name when being insulting and confrontational. How about this analogy "if you can not take the heat then do not start the fire". I think everyone is concerned about a change in policy and not them. "
Re Athletic code wrote on May 6, 2008 2:22 PM:
" But let them play as many games as you can until they tell you otherwise. What a lousy example that sets. "
RE Athletic Code wrote on May 6, 2008 1:01 PM:
" The Athletic code has already been in effect, the kid has to sit out a few games...so quit your whining about this whole situation and let the felbers handle this situation by themselves and you worry about your own selves. "
athletic code wrote on May 5, 2008 7:40 PM:
" still waiting for the facts..when does the athletic code take effect???? "
re pot meet kettle wrote on May 5, 2008 6:48 PM:
" Your statement and initials scare me. You must be a real outlaw to criticize "cowboys" "
re hello wrote on May 5, 2008 6:46 PM:
" You must be close to the family and an expert in child development. Normally when kids show up to an event drunk they are with someone that is also drinking. TASD does not have a designated driver program (that would be against the LAW). Whomever was with the kid should be cited also, not to mention who gave or bought the alcohol. Those that are enablers normally do not "have a clue" to long term consequences. I think those who are anonymous "clueless" are more interesting than those who are ignorant. By the way I have made mistakes as have my kids but we do not make excuses for them. "
Parents also cited wrote on May 5, 2008 6:37 PM:
" Since the cat is out of the bag now there is another issue that the AD needs to look at and that is the accepted behavior of a few Varsity baseball dads who must have been hometown hereos or Ivy League baseball players because they really love reliving their glory days. They are allowed to belittle the players on the field to the point that it is hard for other parents to enjoy the game. I am sure that the AD could cite another violation to the parents just by watching Hagen. They really need to let the coaches do their job and if they have an issue go to the coaches directly maybe even discreetly instead of berating the players in front of EVERYONE. The coach put the players on the field for a reason and when the players mess up they know it immediately and do not need to be called names by the parents in the stands. Players getting redirection from the coach immediately after the inning usually is enough. They do not need it also from their team, community, and parents. If these former athletes represent Tomah then yes there is something that needs to change. Maybe the school resource officer could escort them off the field when the AD is unavailable or unaware. I am seeing a pattern here. Bullying is not acceptable at school why should it be acceptable in the stands? "
re sports nut wrote on May 5, 2008 6:19 PM:
" Did you not read baseball parent? More than this kid has been cited. All teenagers have made mistakes. We have made mistakes. The kids that turn themselves in or the parents who do so are not the ones being defensive here. They just seem to miss more games which does not seem right AT ALL. "
re pot meet the kettle wrote on May 5, 2008 6:15 PM:
" Not posting your initials could be considered nameless and faceless. This is not about the kid or parenting it is about the unfairness of the distribution of the policy. I do not think that any one on this blog is a know it all; those who are educated know that is impossible. "
re Hello Steve Haye wrote on May 5, 2008 6:08 PM:
" The post did not say that the kid was cited for a DUI. It stated that WI is at the top of the list with DUI's even more so that this state and school district is very lenient with drinking/public intoxication. The post was also about the Athletic/Activities Code needing to be changed to address the drinking problem the students seem to be having esp. those that only get caught a fraction of the time and are repeat offenders. If following the code to a T is what happened then this needs to be addressed with the school board. The kids that are honest or turn themselves in miss more games than those who take advantage of the way the code is established is WRONG!!! People who remain anonymous have a reason for doing so they are not "cowards". The word coward or cowardly can be interpreted as those who hide behind a system that protects the guilty. Perhaps those who respond are non verbal or confrontational. Being anonymous can serve the greater good instead of being deragatory and posting your name. This has never been about the kid it is about the system that needs to be changed. "
Pot meet Kettle wrote on May 5, 2008 5:53 PM:
" And what exactly are you teaching here as a parent? When you dont agree with something remain a faceless and nameless cowboy hiding behind a Internet blog? You know it alls who have all the answers and do nothing but critique every coach, administrator and now even parents. You all need to grow up because you are worse than the kids are.
SH "
sports nut wrote on May 5, 2008 4:10 PM:
" Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones, for the kid your talking about today may be yours tommorrow. "
Where O Where did Cindy Go wrote on May 5, 2008 3:31 PM:
" (Love the comment about kids following in their parents footsteps.) Give me a break...you need to teach your kids the consequences of their actions. Don't stand their and let them hide behind you. Where will that ever get them in life? And Mr. Haye, this is not a bash on any "kids" that made a bad decision, it is a bash on parents that think this kind of behavior is appropriate. "
hello wrote on May 5, 2008 10:13 AM:
" First of all throwing the DUI comment out there is kind of silly since I know for a fact he wasnt driving. Secondly since you obviously have no clue what the Athletic code is you should probably just keep quiet. Let me know who you are since you have obviously never made mistakes as a kid and most likely raised perfect angels. I think the general consensus is that people who come on here and trash people/coaches etc ate cowards.
Steve Haye "
Facts wrote on May 5, 2008 8:57 AM:
" What are the facts? I agree with re athletic code that Wisconsin is a very forgiving state for DUI's and public intoxication; and that the school board should take a harsher stand when it is a kids second violation for drinking maybe this would later help the binge drinking when they are in college. "
reCindy Felber wrote on May 4, 2008 9:23 PM:
" The Apple does not fall far from the tree. Kids follow in their parents foot steps. If the kid was caught drinking he should pay the consequences. Set a good example and your kids will have a better chance!!!!
D.C. "
re athletic code wrote on May 4, 2008 8:36 PM:
" Maybe you could enlighten us with the facts Cindy "
baseball parent wrote on May 4, 2008 6:55 PM:
" ReCINDYFELBER
YOU ARE CORRECT IN STATTING THAT THE CODE BY YOUR ACCOUNTS WAS FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER. ACCORDING TO THE ATHLETIC CODE AN ATHLETE IS GULITY UNTIL AN APPEAL CAN BE BROUGHT IN FRONT OF A COMMITTE.THIS IS ONLYAFTER PROPER NOYIFICATION OF PARENTS. THERE IS WHERE THE PROBLEM CAME ABOUT IN THIS INSTANC. THE PARENTS WERE NOT PROPERLY NOTIFIED SO THE ATHLETE WAS ELIGIBLE TO PLAY.CINDY FELBER, AS LONG AS YOU KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT THIS INCIDENT, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THE ATHLETE GOT HOME FROM PROM? WAS THIS NOT NOTIFACATION ENOUGH FOR YOU. USE THE RULES WHEN THEY HELP YOU BUT LOOK FOR ANY LOOPHOLE WHEN YOU CAN. AN INCIDENT SIMILAR TO THIS HAPPENED LAST YEAR AND THE PARENTS TURNED THE ATHLETE INTO THE COACH AND DID NOT WORRY ABOUT PROPER NOTIFICATION. BY THE WAY THIS ENDED HIS SEASON. I AM A PARENT WHO IS STILL INVOLVED SO I WILL NOT SIGN THIS EITHER. BUT HOW DARE YOU CALL OTHERS OUT WHEN YOU NEED TO LOOK IN A MIRROR "
Be a Parent wrote on May 4, 2008 6:31 PM:
" I cant understand how following the specifics of an athletic code justifies proper parenting. If your child is involved with something they shouldn't be doing, you shouldn't need an athletic code to decide if your child should participate or not. Step up and be a parent. Think long term. Missing an insignificant game that no one will remember in five years, pales in comparison to a life long lesson.
"
Cindy Felber wrote on May 4, 2008 12:28 PM:
" Again no name. Like I said get your facts straight! "
re Athletic CodeCindy Felber wrote on May 3, 2008 7:04 PM:
" The general consenus is that some kids have not been allowed to play immediately when others always seem to catch a break for one reason or another when the same number/type of violation(s) occur. Most of the students at the school can attest to the differences made but will not speak up for fear of retaliation. Wisconsin has the highest DUI statistics in the nation so perhaps the school board should have harsher consenquences to the serial offenders caught drinking or showing up drunk on school grounds even if they are playmakers. Suspension AND being taken off the team for more than one offense for drinking would be an appropriate deterrent/wake up call and who knows it may even save their lives. "
Cindy Felber wrote on May 2, 2008 1:15 PM:
" The athletic code was followed to a T. You may want to get your facts straight before you post such a stupid comment. Also, if you are not such a coward and post your name, I can get you a copy it. "
Athletic Code wrote on May 1, 2008 9:01 PM:
" What is our athletic code anyway???Does everyone have to follow it or only a few?? "
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